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At 10:45am on August 27, 2009, Justin David Moore said…: hey i was told to ask you about a kilt lol i dont know how much they are or where to get one i just found this with the help of my brother and father so we are trying to figure stuff out and so far this is as far back as we have found and i would love to be able to find all the stuff to wear thank you very much
Justin Moore

At 10:58pm on July 30, 2009, JACKIE MUIR said…: Great pictures!

At 6:46am on July 29, 2009, John L. Moore Sr ESQ said…: I agree...And some day I and the older Clann Members will need some one "RELIABLE" to fill our positions...active people... I do understand (believe me) about money and family ILLneses.....I try to do some small thing each day for the Clann. I have a constraint on my budget, However I am working to make sure the Stone Mountain Games have a tent (which I will set a large bit of the time). Mabey with the Good work done by Douglas S. Moore at "THE GATHER" will help inspire some others to help us ( you , me, and others )
I say thanks to you brother ....JOHN

At 1:19pm on July 28, 2009, John L. Moore Sr ESQ said…: I thank you for your kind words to Guardian JANN...and your commitment to work......I also agree that more ( pun intended ) Clanns Men and women need to Join the Clann Society and such...Heres hoping we can convence them to do so.
John

At 6:17am on June 29, 2009, Jann Muir ~ Guardian Clann Muir said…: Good enough...we don't need you arrested for stealing motherland dirt...hee hee!
We all look forward to your homeland stories.
Enjoy your time and make your lifetime memories.
silante',
Jann

At 8:59am on June 28, 2009, Jann Muir ~ Guardian Clann Muir said…: Hey there you 'hei-land' lad....what a joy to see all your p;ictures.
How about some titles and information on each one..we know Rowallan but you have some that are unknown to us.
I would sure love a small bag of Rowallan soil for my Clann historical stash collection..even some motherland soil..a lil baggie would do..Hee Hee.
Hugs and have lots of fun!
Silante',
Jann

At 12:45pm on June 25, 2009, Andrew Neil Moore said…: Hi Dan. That's great your over, especially since we are having a short spell of good weather! Unfortunately I can't make it to meet with you tomorrow as I've got a really important meeting down south. I can't even rearrange it as I've got some guys from my companies head office attending. I hope you have a great time over here and I can only appologise for not being able to meet up.
Kind regards
Andrew

At 5:00am on May 29, 2009, Ken Muir said…: Hi Dan, I wonder if you could help me............

I sent a message to our Clan Chief, Andrew Moore, upon joining our society but have not had a reply as yet.

I asked, for clarity regarding the spelling of PATENTIA/PATIENTIA.

On the official Clan Muir website, the Clan motto on the buckle badge reads, "DURUM PATENTIA FRANGO", however, my understanding is that our motto is "DURUM PATIENTIA FRANGO".

Also, I originally tried unsuccessfully to establish contact through the official Clan Muir website.
I had my messages to clanmuir@hotmail.com rejected.
Is this the correct correspondence address, or should I use an alternative?

I do look forward to your reply.

Here's tae us!
Ken Muir
00420 728511246

At 6:21am on May 27, 2009, Victor G. Muir Leeman said…: Dan,
Are you still overseas? I hope you are well.

How is it going?

Regards from Australia.

At 2:29pm on May 23, 2009, Andrew Neil Moore said…: Hi Dan. If you don't already have someone to show you the sites e-mail me nearer the time and I'll spare some time for you.

At 2:13pm on May 20, 2009, john ruthe Convener for Alaska said…: i ordered from scotweb.com john

At 1:22pm on May 20, 2009, john ruthe Convener for Alaska said…: i have a kilt outfit ordered but was not sure that it would get here in time for the Games john

At 1:43pm on May 12, 2009, Randy Muir ~ Clann Muir Genealogist (AKA tree) said…: Dear Dan:

I don't believe I have your e-mail, but mine is tree9616@aol.com. PLEASE put something in the subject line to attract my attention (e.g. TARTAN WEARER).

Sincerely,
Randy

At 6:21pm on April 8, 2009, Victor G. Muir Leeman said…: Dan,
I admire you for even starting without a tutor. The hardest part for me still is when I'm at band practice and we are given a set of new tunes and expected to sit there in turn one by one and play them by sight reading.

It takes hours and hours of practice before you start to recognize notes quickly enough to read and just play. Thankfully once you internalise a tune into your mind and fingres muscle memory you can leave the music aside and concentrate on expresion etc.

What tune are you looking at or is it an exercise?

Regards,
Victor

At 4:58am on April 8, 2009, Victor G. Muir Leeman said…: Dan,
How's the practice going?

Regards,
Victor

At 6:03pm on April 4, 2009, Jim Moore (AKA "ElfWatcher") said…: THANKS!! loking forward to it!

At 5:25am on March 27, 2009, Victor G. Muir Leeman said…: Dan,
That’s fantastic. You didn’t mess around. I can’t believe you have got straight into it. I should have expected as much though! You are a Muir aren’t you. I’m very very impressed. What did you mean when you said “My problem is when I see the music(symbols) I don't see the Notes”.? What are the music symbols that you are referring to?

Anyway great effort. Remember “Durum Patentia Frango”, and you’ll need to take our motto literally if you are to master the pipes. I’m very proud of you for even giving it a go.

Remember to keep your fingers and wrists in fact, relatively straight. Not ridged but relaxed. And when you start to introduce grace notes keep them nice and open. They will close down as things progress. Your lessons will probably include a “G” grace note into the scale next.

Keep me informed of your progress. Whose program are you following?

Regards,
Victor

At 5:53pm on March 18, 2009, Victor G. Muir Leeman said…: Dan,
Sorry about the delayed response I couldn't get at my computer. I didn't realize you were away from home. I didn’t know we had clansmen over there. Are you in the Armed Forces? I have said a prayer that the Lord will keep you safe.

You’re on the right track now with the Bagpipes. I too wanted to get a set of pipes when I was young just to have and I thought of putting them on a wall as a display.

Then I decided to actually learn to play. Whatever you decide they do look cool. I am handling them all the time and I never get sick of looking at them.

A practice chanter is definitely the way to go to start. But be careful not to get into bad habits if you try to learn on you own. It’s the type of thing that has been passed down from tutor to pupil in person for hundreds of years and little has changed in the principals of teaching in that time.

If you really want to give it a go before you get home then have a look at this link. http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=Learn+bagpipes+on+line&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

I only looked at the third one down “Learn bagpipes online with instruction by Pipe Major Bill Robertson.” This man has unbelievable credentials.

See how you feel. Keep me informed on what you’re up to. I’m happy to chat any time.

Regards,
Victor

At 6:53am on March 16, 2009, Victor G. Muir Leeman said…: Dan,
I would have to agree Bagpipes are expensive I sold my siver mounted set of Grainger & Campbell about 16 years ago for $8, 000 Aus.

I wouldn't recommend an electronic bagpipe for learning. I have one but purchased it about a year and a half ago, to enable me to learn a new set of competition tunes while I was traveling on planes and coaches through Europe with my family. Nobody could hear me playing as I had ear phones. It gives a totally different feel to a real pipe or practice chanter though.

If you want to learn to play you need to find a tutor or a pipe band in your area and talk to them. You will not need a set of pipes for at least the first year. You won't be permitted to touch a set until you are ready. You will be learning on a practice chanter. You will continue to use this for learning tunes and working on fingering the whole of your piping career.

It's a huge commitment but it's worth it if you work very very hard and your playing comes together after a few years. And it will take a good few years.

I just got home from band practice about an hour ago and it's 11.48pm here. We practice as band twice a week and I practice most days at home.

All the best,
Victor

At 2:47pm on March 8, 2009, Robert B. More, High Commissione said…: Getting the registered coat of arms of the Rowallan Muirs tattooed on you while in Scotland would not be a good idea. In the USA you can certainly get almost anything tattooed on any part of your body! But even then, displaying the Muir arms while you were in Scotland would be bad form.

What you CAN get tattooed without any problems afterwards, is the Muir Crest - the saracen head surrounded by the belt with the clan motto "Durum Patentia Frango" below. I have one tatt of a rampant lion in red, flanked by Celtic knotwork - while the royal family uses a red rampant lion in their arms, I have not actually copied their arms, and the rampant lion is a common enough symbol apart from the royal family's use of it. So another suggestion for you is to think about the animal, bird, etc. that has special meaning for you, or that is a totem, and look at some heraldry books to find out how that animal is displayed - then get a stylized tatt of that animal and some celtic knotwork.

Let me know what you finally decide.

Regards,

MacBear